Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 boat specs
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Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008
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Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 boat specs
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Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008
2008
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Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 vs Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008: Same Brand, Different Boat

The Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 is a modified-V design and the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 is a flat-bottom design, so you're likely deciding between two noticeably different on-water experiences. Hull type shapes everything from ride quality and fuel burn to dock handling and resale trajectory.

On paper these two are close siblings in the size department - Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 at 17,0 ft versus Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 at 16,0 ft. Weight tells a clearer story for trailering families: the Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 tips the scales at 888 lbs - 504 lbs more than the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 at 384 lbs. That difference is meaningful if you're working within a half-ton or three-quarter-ton truck's tow rating, especially once you factor in a motor, gear, and fuel.

The power gap is worth calling out. Rated to 90 hp, the Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 has a 60-hp advantage over the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008's 30-hp ceiling - enough to notice on acceleration and at cruising speed, particularly with a full passenger load.

Both boats are rated for 4 passengers - a good fit for a family of four or five plus guests. Comfort at capacity is another matter; the longer hull typically means more seat options and better weight distribution.

At this size, power-to-weight ratio matters more than outright horsepower. The Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 comes in at 10 lbs per hp versus 13 lbs per hp for the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008. The lower the ratio the more explosive the acceleration - meaningful on a short RIB where bursts of speed, quick planing, and agility in surf or tight waterways define the experience.

Bottom line: Performance buyers should lean toward the Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 and its 90-hp ceiling. If fuel economy and quieter running matter more than top-end speed, the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 with its 30-hp rating is the more economical daily driver.
General Boat Info
MakeXpress
MakeXpress
ModelHDPF Series - HD17PFC
ModelLivewell - 1650LW
Model Year2008
Model Year2008
Measurements / Dimensions
Beam82 in.
Beam74 in.
Beam - Meters2.08
Beam - Meters1.88
Beam - Inches82
Beam - Inches74
Weight - Detail888 lbs.
Weight - Detail384 lbs.
Weight - kg402.79
Weight - kg174.18
Weight - lbs.888
Weight - lbs.384
Height - Detail25 in.
Height - Detail21 in.
Height - Meters0.64
Height - Meters0.53
Height - Inches25
Height - Inches21
Height [transom]21 in.
Height [transom]16 or 21 in.
Length - Feet17
Length - Feet16
Length overall - Detail17 ft. 0 in.
Length overall - Detail16 ft. 0 in.
Length overall - Meters5.18
Length overall - Meters4.88
Length overall - Inches204
Length overall - Inches192
Body / Hull
Hull materialAluminum
Hull materialAluminum
Hull thickness0.100 in.
Hull thickness0.100 in.
Hull typeModified Vee
Hull typeFlat
Engine and Drivetrain
Fuel typeGas
Fuel typeGas
Drive typeOutboard
Drive typeOutboard
Engine max90 hp
Engine max30-70 hp (Higher horsepower ratings are for remote steering only)
Operational Info
Maximum capacity1,200 lbs.
Maximum capacity1,000 lbs.
Maximum people4/600 lbs.
Maximum people4/550 lbs.
Trailer Info
Trailer - Length over allPK Length: 22 ft. 0 in. (includes trailer and engine)
Trailer - Length over allnot available

Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 vs Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 - Common Questions

Which is the larger boat - the Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 or the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008?
The Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 is the longer of the two at 17,0 feet overall. The Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 comes in at 16,0 feet, making it roughly 1,0 ft shorter - a meaningful difference in deck room and overall on-water presence.
Which is easier to trailer - the Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 or the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008?
For trailering, the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 has the edge at 384 lbs dry weight versus 888 lbs for the Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008. Add a motor (typically 300–500 lbs for an outboard in this class), gear, and a partial fuel load and the difference grows. Lighter is friendlier on smaller tow vehicles and on fuel economy while hauling.
Which boat can handle a bigger outboard?
The Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 is rated to a maximum of 90 hp, giving it the larger power ceiling. The Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 tops out at 30 hp. Keep in mind that maximum ratings are just that - matching the motor to the actual load and usage pattern usually matters more than chasing the ceiling.
How many people can each boat hold?
The Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 is Coast Guard rated for 4 passengers, while the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 is certified for 4. Note that legal capacity and comfortable capacity aren't always the same thing - on a full day out, most experienced boaters aim for about 80% of the rated number to keep things comfortable.
Which boat has the better power-to-weight ratio?
The Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 has a better power-to-weight ratio at 10 lbs per hp compared to 13 lbs per hp for the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008. A lower number means quicker acceleration and faster time to plane - the number that actually matters most on short, sporty boats like these.
Which boat is wider, and does it affect trailering?
The Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 measures 82" wide, compared to 74" for the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008. The US standard-width towing limit is 8’6" (102") in most states - anything over that may need a wide-load permit. Confirm your specific route requirements with each state's DOT.
Are the Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 and Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 from the same manufacturer?
Yes - both the Xpress HDPF Series - HD17PFC 2008 and the Xpress Livewell - 1650LW 2008 are built by Xpress. That means shared dealer networks, common parts availability, and consistent build quality across the line. The choice between them is essentially a question of how much boat you need, not which brand you trust.