Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 boat specs
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Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009
2009
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Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 boat specs
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Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012
2012
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Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 vs Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 — A Close Look at Two Modified Vees

When two boats share the same hull type — in this case both the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 and the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 are modified vee designs with aluminum construction — the buying decision usually comes down to a handful of practical questions: how many people are you putting on the water, how far do you trailer, and what does your tow vehicle weigh?

On paper these two are close siblings in the size department — Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 at 18,0 ft versus Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 at 17,2 ft. Weight tells a clearer story for trailering families: the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 tips the scales at 1 325 lbs — 1 227 lbs less than the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 at 98 lbs. That difference is meaningful if you're working within a half-ton or three-quarter-ton truck's tow rating, especially once you factor in a motor, gear, and fuel.

The power gap is worth calling out. Rated to 140 hp, the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 has a 60-hp advantage over the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009's 80-hp ceiling — enough to notice on acceleration and at cruising speed, particularly with a full passenger load. Fuel capacity breaks the other way: the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 carries 24 gallons versus 18 gallons in the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009. On a lake day that's negligible, but for coastal cruising or long reservoir runs the extra range matters.

Both boats are rated for 6 passengers — a good fit for a family of four or five plus guests. Comfort at capacity is another matter; the longer hull typically means more seat options and better weight distribution.

At this size, power-to-weight ratio matters more than outright horsepower. The Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 comes in at 1 lbs per hp versus 10 lbs per hp for the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012. The lower the ratio the more explosive the acceleration — meaningful on a short RIB where bursts of speed, quick planing, and agility in surf or tight waterways define the experience.

Bottom line: Performance buyers should lean toward the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 and its 140-hp ceiling. If fuel economy and quieter running matter more than top-end speed, the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 with its 80-hp rating is the more economical daily driver.
General Boat Info
MakeSmoker Craft
MakeSmoker Craft
ModelBass & Bay 1866 TL
ModelUltima 172
Model Year2009
Model Year2012
Measurements / Dimensions
Beam94 in
Beam91 in
Beam - Meters2.39
Beam - Meters2.31
Beam - Inches94
Beam - Inches91
Depth - Detail24 in
Depth - Detail26 in
Depth - Centimeters60.96
Depth - Centimeters66.04
Depth - Inches24
Depth - Inches26
Weight - Detail980 lbs
Weight - Detail1,325 lbs
Weight - kg444.52
Weight - kg601.01
Weight - lbs.98
Weight - lbs.1325
Width [transom] - Detail92 in
Width [transom] - Detail88 in
Height - Detail26 in
Height - Detailnot available
Height - Meters0.66
Height - Metersnot available
Height - Inches26
Height - Inchesnot available
Height [transom]LS
Height [transom]LS
Length - Feet18
Length - Feet17.17
Length overall - Detail18 ft. 0 in
Length overall - Detail17 ft. 2 in
Length overall - Meters5.49
Length overall - Meters5.23
Length overall - Inches216
Length overall - Inches206
Body / Hull
Hull materialAluminum
Hull materialAluminum
Hull thicknessBottom Gauge: 0.100 Side Gauge: 0.1
Hull thicknessBottom: 0.100 in. Side: 0.080 in. Rib: 0.100 in
Hull typeModified Vee
Hull typeModified Vee
Engine and Drivetrain
Fuel tank capacity - Detail18 gal
Fuel tank capacity - Detail24 gal
Fuel tank capacity - Liters68.14
Fuel tank capacity - Liters90.85
Fuel tank capacity - Gal18
Fuel tank capacity - Gal24
Fuel typeGas
Fuel typeGas
Drive typeOutboard
Drive typeOutboard
Engine max80 hp
Engine max140 hp
Engine makenot available
Engine makeMercury
Engine modelnot available
Engine model90 ELPT Optimax
Operational Info
Maximum capacity1,400 lbs
Maximum capacity1,425 lbs
Maximum people6
Maximum people6
Trailer Info
Trailer - Detailnot available
Trailer - DetailYes

Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 vs Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 — Common Questions

Which is the larger boat — the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 or the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012?
The Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 is the longer of the two at 18,0 feet overall. The Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 comes in at 17,2 feet, making it roughly 0,8 ft shorter — a meaningful difference in deck room and overall on-water presence.
Which is easier to trailer — the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 or the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012?
For trailering, the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 has the edge at 98 lbs dry weight versus 1 325 lbs for the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012. Add a motor (typically 300–500 lbs for an outboard in this class), gear, and a partial fuel load and the difference grows. Lighter is friendlier on smaller tow vehicles and on fuel economy while hauling.
Which boat can handle a bigger outboard?
The Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 is rated to a maximum of 140 hp, giving it the larger power ceiling. The Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 tops out at 80 hp. Keep in mind that maximum ratings are just that — matching the motor to the actual load and usage pattern usually matters more than chasing the ceiling.
How many people can each boat hold?
The Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 is Coast Guard rated for 6 passengers, while the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 is certified for 6. Note that legal capacity and comfortable capacity aren't always the same thing — on a full day out, most experienced boaters aim for about 80% of the rated number to keep things comfortable.
Which boat has the better power-to-weight ratio?
The Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 has a better power-to-weight ratio at 1 lbs per hp compared to 10 lbs per hp for the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012. A lower number means quicker acceleration and faster time to plane — the number that actually matters most on short, sporty boats like these.
Which boat is wider, and does it affect trailering?
The Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 measures 94" wide, compared to 91" for the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012. The US standard-width towing limit is 8’6" (102") in most states — anything over that may need a wide-load permit. Confirm your specific route requirements with each state's DOT.
Which boat has the larger fuel tank — the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 or the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012?
The Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 has the bigger tank at 24 gallons, versus 18 gallons on the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009. That 6-gallon difference translates to roughly 18–30 nautical miles of additional range at cruising speed, depending on motor, load, and conditions.
Are the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 and Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 from the same manufacturer?
Yes — both the Smoker Craft Bass & Bay 1866 TL 2009 and the Smoker Craft Ultima 172 2012 are built by Smoker Craft. That means shared dealer networks, common parts availability, and consistent build quality across the line. The choice between them is essentially a question of how much boat you need, not which brand you trust.